The Secret of Blade Type and Gearing

August 15, 2008 by  
Filed under Leverage, Oars

Recently Susan submitted this question about oar length:

I just received your “Nuts & Bolts guide…” from Amazon.com I bought the book because I’m getting alot of conflicting feedback about my rigging.

When I learned to scull, it was in a VanDusen racing 1x with club rigging: 160 spread, 289/88 C II big blades. My technique is good, but I’m not very strong (hence the reason why I work technique). I now own a 2004 Hudson LWT 1x. I have not been able to use these same rigging settings on my Hudson. I cannot get to the pin to save my life.

I’ve been playing around with measurements. I still have a 160 spread, but had to shorten my oars to about 287 with an 87.5 inboard on C II smoothies. I’m almost at the pin, but the boat is feeling heavier.

I looked at the chart in Chapter 15 of your book and I have to say that I’m even more confused. I’ve never seen scull lengths over 290. In fact, when I looked at Volker Nolte’s charts (Rowing Faster) and at the recommendations given for Fluidesign, they had me moving the oars shorter, citing a difference between the CII smoothie and big blade sculls.

What’s a good length and does the particular blade type make a difference?

Susan:

A great question. There certainly is a relationship between blade type and oar length. The physics of why can be tedious, but if you would like some insight into how blade shape, design, and length all work together you may want to check out this page.

Back to your question . . . as blade shapes have morphed into new shapes, blade lengths typically have shortened. In your case, going from a CII Big Blade to a CII Smoothie, you should shorten your blade only about 1 cm or so. Now this is based on CII’s testing, and is just a guideline. It looks like that is what you did. Please refer to the chart below for some guidance.
oarlengthchart2
Here is the secret of selecting the correct rigging adjustments for you—testing. Slow, methodical testing can get you where you want to go. I would suggest that where you are now with your lengths might fine, and your inboard seems okay. I would not go any wider with your span (you are at 160 now). I would suggest that you might try testing your work-through.

I have noticed that scullers seem to have difficulty finding the right work-through measurement for them. (This is the distance from a perpendicular through the pin to a perpendicular across the front stops.) Scullers tend to need negative work-through with their hips at or behind the pin.You can make this adjustment on the water by moving the footstretchers. (Please refer to the book for more into on this).

Here is what I would do (on a no- or low- wind day).

  1. Set up a SpeedCoach for average pace (the average is taken from the moment you hit “Start” until you hit “Stop”. You can use GPS. More on that in a later post.
  2. Row 300-500 meters
  3. Take average speed of piece
  4. Make slight adjustment to footstrechters
  5. Row and average piece again
  6. Repeat a few times with small adjustments
  7. Compare averages of each piece, noting footstretcher placement

This information should give you some insight into your hip placement against the pin. Also, record how you “feel” after each piece. These subjective evaluations are also important for someone who has rowed as long as you.

Try this and let us know what you come up with.

Readers, anyone want to pipe in for suggestions for Susan?

  • Winsor Pilates

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3 Responses to “The Secret of Blade Type and Gearing”
  1. Jeff McKenna says:

    Mike,

    I was curious as to where you came up with these blade/length numbers from Concept2. Here’s the ranges I found on their site:

    Recommended Oar Length
    Fat/Fat2 Smoothie Big Blade
    Collegiate Women 362–367 cm 367–372 cm 367–372 cm
    Collegiate Men 365–370 cm 370–375 cm 370–375 cm
    Elite Women 365–370 cm 370–375 cm 370–375 cm
    Elite Men 368–373 cm 373–378 cm 373–378 cm
    Master Sculler 278–283 cm 284–289 cm 284–289 cm
    Senior Sculler, double 280–285 cm 287–292 cm 287–292 cm

    What rigging would you recommend for me? (I’m 6’2″, 195, good flexibility and decent erg strength, about 6:50, use Smoothies)

    Thanks,

    Jeff McKenna

  2. Bill Brown says:

    I have a 2006 midweight Hudson 1x and am trying to resolve a similar problem as Susan.

    I get up to the pin by pushing the shoes what seems to be far relative to the rigger but I am not getting much forward body lean so my catch is still short or so I am told.

    One curious stat that I have found is heel cup height. The shell seem to be shallow. Pushing shoe all the way to bottom only got me 16cm which is where the standard range in “Nuts & Bolts” starts. To get more height, one must raise the seat. I just installed the 1/2″ risers that they sell for this. This seems to improve but has not totally solved my problem.

    Would be happy to receive any suggestions or to know if Susan worked out her issue.

  3. Mike says:

    @ Bill
    I would guess that you still don’t have enough heel cup height, or the foot stretcher angle may not be correct. On the first part (height), I would first start with a seat pad. You can purchase them from several places, or make your own out of closed-cell foam (so it does not absorb water). I have found that camping pads work well. Probably go for about 1/4 inch thickness, then you can always double it to make it thicker.

    Per foot stretcher angle, I would try heights first, then we can go from there. Let me know. Mike

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